where are walt and michael?
OK, another Lost thing that actually hit me this week. So both the parachuter and Locke's father show up. Both (I think) talk about the crash, and about how the plane was found. And the parachuter talks about how Charlie's band is now famous and there's a greatest hits record (how long have they been gone again?). But neither of them say anything about Walt and Michael.
If they had actually made it back to civilization, wouldn't that be news? And wouldn't they tell the story of the island and the crash, etc.? So, one of two things are true here...
- Locke's father and the parachuter either weren't telling the truth or...weren't actually from the real world. Or (more probably)...
- Michael and Walt didn't make it back to civilization.
Where the hell are they? Anyone want to bet if they will make it into the finale somehow?
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Also, they're not totally forgotten (at least not by the creators and writers and such) because every recap episode makes some mention of Walt.
(Sorry, I just had a flashback to those episodes where W&M were still on.)
I can't say I miss Michael's Constant Desperate Shouting, but I am also dying to know what became of them, and to find out about Walt's "abilities." Hey, maybe he'll transfer over to Heroes. If that weren't completely impossible due to the whole two competing networks thing, that might actually be a cool idea. Hmm.
I agree. What happened to them? They made such a big deal about Walt being a "special boy" yet we haven't heard anything of it for quite some time.
Very good analysis, kudos to the chef. Your previous post of the 'filler' episode was so true. It sucked.
I think we all knew and know that Michael and Walt were coming back. I think the producers/directors were just being kind enough to get these two chumps off the show so people would actually continue to watch the show. They drove me nuts.
The greatest hits thing works because if they indeed 'found the plane' they could have taken advantage of that pretty quickly. I just don't think the band was every really good enough to warrant a greatest hits album. But they've been on the island for what seems about 6 months to a year now so it could work.
So on the whole "they found the plane" thing. I have a problem with the statement for one primary reason. I can't remember exactly, but I remember the parachute chick saying the plane was found 'deep' in some water. I remember the 'deep' being pretty f_in deep.
So let's say this happened in real life today. W would not send people down any further than 500 feet at most, and you'd have to be pretty committed to a program that involved that kind of depth for diving (see hardcore technical diving). And, then I think something was mentioned about a robot/camera thing sent down to look at all the bodies. First off, it's not going to take very long at all for the dead people to be unrecognizable under water. "Everyone is so puffy!" I also dont know of a robot that pulls teeth for dental records. I just think they found a piece of the plane that told them it was flight 815 and some bodies and figured the sharks ate the rest.
Now for sure the robot/camera thing could figure out if the right plane was involved, and that does indeed present a problem in terms of figuring out this damn show that has me hooked like a crack addict. But we also know this is a subset of people on the plane so maybe there is more plane nearby, just not close enough.
My hunch is that they are indeed in purgatory. It's a very strange purgatory but everything keeps being a test.
I think it falls under the fact that life in and of itself is complicated enough with the good things and the bad things we all do. If I were God (and I am far from religious) I dont think I could keep track of all the things good and bad that people did and then say "hell for you, heaven for you" It would seem like 'new testing' in a 'controlled environment' makes more sense.
I loved the quote from Locke's dad "Little warm for heaven dont you think?" That was good stuff.
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jp
Wife was rushing me out the door for dinner.
I do have to add one (ok like many) thing(s):
What the absolute bloody hell is the Jacob thing about? That is just straight up wack, over the top for the show, wack.
Here are two theories:
1) It's all totally fake, on purpose. Ben was already pissed at Locke for putting the squeeze on his program/power play with the 'others'. It was clearly a ripoff of the hitchcock flick, psycho. Anyway, some strings here, some tape recorded voices there and that whole thing can be pretty explained away as trivial and stupid. Nothing more than a way to distract Locke so Ben can shoot him.
2) Ok, Here's my go out on a limb theory. Let's throw out my purgatory idea above and try something else. Maybe the Dharma initiative was playing around with multiple dimensions, parallel universes, time travel, and the like. Who's to say they weren't somewhat successful but got someone stuck in between our world and a complete other world? Since we are just now finding out about more 'stations' and we know some pretty wacky shit happened when the button stopped getting pressed, potentially Jacob is nothing more than someone trapped in some even worse halfway house of reality and the parallel reality. Perhaps it was quantum physics gone bad (or successful?) Jacob is actually in a Superstate, existing and not existing at the same very time.
Ok. I feel better ranting my ideas.
In short I have no clue. The show is amazingly good at keeping you hooked and giving you new stuff to chew on but still leaving you more and more confused.
Sure beats 24 where you take a whole season to talk about a day where you know the good guys win and the bad guys lose.
As Ben says "We're the good guys", even more confusing now that we know they are gen 2 out of 3 instead of gen 1 of 2.
I also dont like the fact that the 'recruiter' that brings Julliette doesn't age a day every. what's up with that?
jp
First, the writers have consistently denied all purgatory theories, and it's one of the reasons they showed us the outside world at the end of the second season.
Second, before the series ever began (just before), ABC ran a web page about the crash of Oceanic 815, and the page declared that The Hanso Foundation was running the recovery. If that's the case, for all we know any "find" of the plane was faked.
As far as time and space being messed with, chew this over: In the first season episode "White Rabbit," Charlie couldn't swim. The first time Des saves Charlie, it's because Charlie would drown if he went in the ocean to save Claire. A few saves later, Charlie is the Northern England swim champion and makes a fine dive into the Looking Glass. It seems when Des saved Charlie, he not only changed the future, but the past and present as well.
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